9.28.2001

communiques

----- Original Message -----
Sent: Friday, September 14, 2001 1:22 PM
Subject: RE: ...the bowl breaks....

> Hi folks,
>
> Forgive the unattractive formatting as I attempt to frame my responses
below with outtakes and pastes.........my $0.02......
>
> H. writes:
>
> "So, my feelings are mixed. I feel something like we are victims, and
> something like we are the ugly Americans."
>
> Well said -- a good description of the contradictory emotions that we're
all wrestling with. I share a message I rcvd today from my best friend:
>
> J. writes:
>
> "Hey Buddy: Feel the same way. Or is it that I don't know what I feel?
> Want to kill somebody one minute, want to hug somebody the next. When I'm
> in the hug mode, I'm thinking of you guys."
>
> H. writes:
>
> "We have played into bin Laden's hands, just as if we had handed him guns
> and armies."
>
> I'm currently thinking of terrorism in terms of being the most extreme
> form of passive-aggressive behavior. On the one hand, having been attacked, if
> we don't respond, we are the vanquished. If we do respond, we are the
> oppressors. It's a lose-lose game. If there were a shred of humanity of
> morality at work here at all, terrorists who have made the decision to
> engage in an act of such egregious aggression against a nation (forgive
> the jingoism) of America's size, stature and resources -- financial, political
> and technological -- the very absolute *least* they could do is to warn
> their own citizens, and then immediately evacuate the nation.
>
> Because we've been known to be swift and brutally ruthless in our
> retaliation. Brutally merciless. Our own pundits and politicos have
> already verbalized their opinions -- that our retaliation, which will
> inevitably come, will be, when it arrives, "completely disproportionate"
> and will take the form of "ending states that support terrorism."
>
> S. writes:
>
> "It's not just our support of Israel, altho that has a lot to do with it.
> Why do we support Israel? Not because we *like* Israel, necessarily, but
> more because Israel is our toe-hold into the Middle East, and we need to
> protect our affordable gas prices. Our Middle East policies are driven (if
> you'll pardon the expression) by what is good at the gas pumps and in our
> pocketbooks, with little regard for anybody else."
>
> I'd be hard-pressed to come up with a better summary of the origin of the
> term "ugly Americans." As for oil interests, see "Gulf War." Nothing about
> that one fit Aquinas's definition of a "just war."
>
> S. writes more:
>
> "IMNSHO, suicide bombings are a tool of desperation...I cannot accept the
> stereotype that "those people" have glorified suicide to the point where it
> has so easily overcome the instinct of self-preservation. For a people (or
> an individual, for that matter) to consider a suicide mission to be viable,
> they must feel that there is no other way."
>
> B. asks:
>
> "Ever notice how those that direct suicide missions in any form, never
> really put themselves in a position to die for the cause their own damn selves?"
>
> The phrase "lunatic fringe" comes to my mind. For instance, who in their
> right mind would, in our current climate, phone in a bomb threat? Who would
> attempt to board a place with false id's? Answer: No one. No one in their
> right minds would even consider such a thing. These individuals are of some
> wholly alien psychic make-up.
>
> H. writes:
>
> "My reaction is weak in the extreme, and I'm a bit ashamed of it. Maybe I've
> been working in juvenile court too long, but I have this feeling of wanting
> to understand what in god's name we have done to them, that they are pushed
> to this much anger. It's the same reaction I have to juvenile murderers:
> what happened to this kid that makes him so angry and lets him have so
> little regard for life?"
>
> [ I would say that shame is not what we need, but I understand it. And I
> appreciate your humility -- you've stared in the face of serious and
> irreparable injustices more than most of us, certainly more than me, H. ]
>
> S. poses a similar question:
>
> "It's time for us to ask what our culpability is...what have we done to make
> America and Americans targets?"
>
> Best I can say is that I'm conflicted. Coming from someone who doesn't
> believe that humans are intrinsically evil, this kind of tragedy is hard to
> explain. I tend to think there is no explanation, though I, too, am at risk
> for oversimplification. The only way I can even remotely comprehend it is
> if I look at it from a perspective of critical mass. Perhaps the sum total
> of positive and negative mass in the universe is continually swinging into
> and out of equilibrium. Perhaps at present, we've reached a point where the
> negative has reached critical mass, and has become a real threat, and only
> The Universe really "knows" this, and what we're sadly witnessing is a
> cycle, is the utterly conscience-less swing of the pendulum. Think of the
> human spiritual energy involved -- we're talking like 5,000 *LIVES* -- where
> does that energy go? I don't believe that it goes nowhere. Perhaps, as I
> heard Netanyahu (sp?) say, this was our "wake up call from hell," like Pearl
> Harbor, like the Holocaust. Perhaps humans are just dense, and this is what
> it takes before we realize that there's a serious imbalance, that the center
> is not holding. There's nothing positive about it, but maybe, from a
> Universal perspective (which I, granted, have no right to claim, even if it
> were possible, and I don't know that it is) this is a corrective measure,
> some cosmic trigger to address a universal wrong. I wish I knew more. I
> wish I knew anything.
>
> Peace,
>
> Rune

Aside: Ram Dass responds.

9.26.2001

and only shadows remain

tears from a metacrawler search:

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In memoriam

9.21.2001

perhaps the only objective picture



and then some flags

well said

Another Day

Happy birthday, Leonard Cohen.

9.17.2001

A Nation Regroups, at a Measured Pace

Sobering views from the world's newspapers, as the planet attempts to come to terms with the reality of September 11, 2001.

On another note, Happy Birthday, Ken Kesey. If we ever could use some Merry Prankster-ism, now's a pretty good time.

9.13.2001

speechless, still

What can anyone say. Here, some NYC bloggers cover the tragedy in words and pictures at The Fine Line, Like An Orb and cia's ext212.

Other opinions at Madison, WI's The Capital Times.

Namaste.